Turner Parcell: The guy we told you about

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[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Today I'm joined by a Kreg off shooter from South Carolina who's been on fire in 2024.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Placing towards the top at most of the large tournaments and a third place finish at World Sporting.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: He has become one of those shooters that you have to look out for. I think I've said that before.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Please welcome to the show, Turner Parcell.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Turner, what's up man? How we doing? Good. You know, I've been trying to get you on this, this show. I don't know.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Three months. When was World Sporting back in May? So yeah, a couple of months now. Yeah.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't even answer text. I mean, I don't know if it's just me, but like this, this kid right here don't even answer text messages.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Terrible. Terrible. Mike Luongo gets on my behind all the time about it. Really?

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah. I bet if we had Snapchat, you'd answer wouldn't you? That's a fact.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe we need to get Snapchat Mike. So, uh, man, you've been on fire this year. 2024 has been, it's been a good year for you.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It has been, it has been. That's crazy. I was going through, you know, just looking at what you've, what you've done this year, man.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, man, every sheet he's been to there might've been one or two that you didn't do something in, but the majority of the shoots.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're up there. Right. Right. Yeah. Have a good year. Have a very good year. All right. You're in college now where you've been in college.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: What sophomore year? Okay. Yep. Sophomore year, University of South Carolina. Oh, nice. Okay. So what, what, uh, what are you majoring in there?

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So my major is business management. Um, how was that? How was that? Yeah, it's good. I mean, I'm enjoying it so far.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, you know, I'm learning a lot of things that I can apply out to the real world and you're learning about, you know, finances or learning about, you know, how to, I guess, run a business and, you know, honestly, you know, I mean, I'm not really getting that real world experience now, but I'm getting the foundation to, um, you know what I could use.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: In the future. That's what counts. Yeah. That's right. Uh, and you made the Dean's list. I saw, I think your mom posted that. Right. How does that? How do you, how do you do that?

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like in my life always, you know, there's a lot of things that's going on, but school always comes first. It really, it has been, it has come first since high school. Right. And no education is always coming first.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, say if I can't shoot tomorrow, what can I have? What can I fall back on or, you know, what's kind of my foundation?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I put a lot of effort into end of my school work. You know, I have more work now that I've been into college.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, back in high school where I would go on the weekends to go shoot, say I go to a tournament or whatever on the weekend, I might wait till that Saturday, Sunday to kind of get everything done. Whereas college, you know, as many people know all the stuff is throughout the week.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's more or less that now when I'm at tournaments, you know, I'm doing my thing during the day shooting, you know, talking to everybody and then going to dinner. And then after we go and get back to wherever staying, it's, it's homework, right?

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, looking, you know, get on that laptop, looking what I have to do, what I have to study for. Do I have an exam coming up? Do I have homework? Do that night and weekend, whatever it is.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty important in my opinion. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You gotta have that. I mean, if you're going, you might've just like, I told my son the other night, your job is school. Okay. And if you don't do well in school, you get fired.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_03]: 100%. So you're there. You might as well do good instead of doing bad and make the best of it because you're going, you know what I mean? So yep. 100%. I agree.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So any of your buddies up there with you or you by yourself or yeah.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So I went to a lot of the people that went into my high school actually go to South Carolina as well. Okay. Um, so that's, you know, when I stayed in my dorms last year, I had a roommate who was one of my good friends in high school.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And then also the room next to us, I was in 225 and then 224. We had another two kids that went to my high school as well that were staying there. So, you know, we all kind of stayed connected, you know, a lot through the freshman year.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And it made it a lot easier to have a lot of people that I've spent so long with my, um, you know, so many years with and, and, you know, every day at school, whatever, and hanging out with them.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah. So what's your plans when you get out of school? What do you want to do? You have any, like, you know, what's your job that you'd like to be involved with?

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So I mean, I've had that question a lot, honestly, just in the past couple of years. Um, and everybody's like, Hey, you're in college now you're a business major. What is your, what are your goals? What are your aspirations? And now really I tell everybody, I haven't really exactly figured out right.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I got still a little bit more time to figure it out, but in all honesty, I really want to work in the industry in some type of way. I feel like, you know, I give lessons now, um, pretty regularly.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I give lessons. So that's something that I feel like I can, I can continue doing after college, but also, you know, getting into more of the maybe the management side of the business or the sales side. You know, like I taught Mike Longo a lot about what kind of, what does the future look like? And, you know, what's, what's, what can I do?

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the big things like probably when I get out of school is mentoring under Mike for a couple of years or really he's, he's somebody and in my eyes who, who has really mastered the game, mastered what he's, what he's doing.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. So in my eyes, I want to surround myself with people who have mastered the game, who know more than me, who can take me to the next level. So that's really, you know, my mentorship under Mike is kind of what I've, my plans are as of the, as of the moment.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice. So you want to stay in the, in the shooting sports prefer it.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Right. I mean, this game's given so much to me. I feel like it's, it's only right to give, you know, give back to it. Yeah.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, how, how are you juggling practices? I mean, you have to be proud. Are you practicing at all?

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, I'm practicing a little bit. Yeah. I mean, how, how are you juggling doing good, staying on the Dean's list, shooting practice going to, I mean, how do you do that? Is it, is it, is it affect your like mental state at all?

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wouldn't say it affects my mental state, but I am always kind of going and doing something right where I'm going to go practice somewhere or, you know, I'm going to class or whatever, or I'm doing homework or whatever it is.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, at the beginning of the season, you know, cause after nationals in October, I kind of like to take a little bit of a break.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So I kind of set the gun down a little bit and I don't really pick the gun back up until about January, you know, kind of the mid to end of January.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And for me, that's what I've gotten done for the past couple of years. I feel like it gives me kind of a reset, right?

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, it's there's a certain time when you shoot too much or you put too much emphasis into it where it can bog you down or you're really not progressing.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of, you know, you're, you're stuck in the mud as you know, per se.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And I feel like, you know, putting the gun down for a couple of months or just a little bit of time and, you know, in general really kind of helps re-energize things and bring back the passion for shooting.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So for me, you know, when I start picking that gun back up in January, I might shoot a good bit. Like I'll shoot, you know, as much time as I have three, four times a week for a little bit to kind of figure out, you know, get back into the game.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, whatever, figure out what's kind of going on at the beginning of the season, you know, and, and around now, you know, later in the season, I kind of, I don't really shoot as much anymore.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I shoot, you know, I've been kind of doing once a week like in between tournaments because we've had some tournaments as of recently.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I'll come shoot the weekend and I'll shoot maybe once a week and then go to the week, shoot the next weekend or a couple weeks later, but or a week later or so.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But around the season now, I'm kind of, I would say a general thing or general like generally I'm probably shooting two times a week just because, you know, a lot of people might say that's a lot and are, you know, a fair amount.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I would agree, you know, two times a week isn't, you know, it's not like a, it's not nothing, but it's not a whole lot.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's, it's enough time to where I feel like I can balance my shooting throughout the week and stay in the game.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and also balance my schoolwork as well.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Shooting three or four times a week is hard to do when you're, you're also balancing all the other stuff that I have on my plate as well.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, two times a week for me as of right now, didn't you used to practice a whole lot?

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I used to bat in high school.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I pretty much shot all, you know, all year long, three or four times a week.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I mean, I shoot a fair, like, don't get me wrong.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely do shoot a lot.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know a lot of people who shoot more than I do.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Yeah. So yeah.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I do shoot a fair amount and I'm blessed to be able to write.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: See me there's a lot of people who can't go out to shoot.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They may, you know, they have work or they have, you know, other obligations in life that that they're not able to go out and practice.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But so I'm blessed to be in a spot where I am able to go practice and keep my game strong.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So you just mentioned nationals a few minutes ago.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You excited to be on the super squad again this year or whatever?

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah. It's a fun time every time.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun time. You get nervous.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Nervous? No.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the very first year when I shot it, because I was on the, you know, the quote unquote inaugural super squad as well.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been on the super squad every year.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The first year we shot it, I don't know if it was as much as nervousness as it was just something different.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're not in your normal routine.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've heard, you know, Zach Keenbaum talking about this a little bit as well.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not really in your normal routine where you're shooting with your squad mates who you're normally shooting with or you're shooting with your buddies, you know, or something like that.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in the super squad where you're shooting with people you're shooting against.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: In all honesty, so it's definitely a different thing with the super squad now.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been in it a couple of years.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say it's nerve wracking. No, it's just kind of another another event you're going there.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you can't really compare yourself to everybody you're shooting with because you're your own person.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Or somebody, you know, I could be matched up with Justin or I could be matched up with Mike in the squad and we can be shooting and, you know, Mike runs a six out of six and Justin, you know, hits a six out of six and I'm hit a five.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, that could just be their targets, right?

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. And so you could get it back to other stations.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I don't I don't really feel like it's a nerve wracking thing now.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It probably keeps you more in tune or more on your toes or it keeps you like you have to do good.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You see all these other guys shooting with you and they're not missing targets and you might miss a couple, you know, you know, Oh God, I got to get back in the game.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I would think right now.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think in all honesty, in all honesty, it helps to probably shoot with better shooters maybe to, you know, the see everybody else in the squad breaking birds in front of you and, you know, tops, you know, the top shooters and they have a really good smooth move and, you know, good, you know, move with the target.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That helps, in all honesty.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: When I'm sitting there behind them, I can see, wow, Justin goes up there and breaks six out of six.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That gives me confidence that I can go up there and do the exact same thing.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. So that's what I like about a super squad a lot.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do. Everybody everybody in the super squad knows why they're there and what they're supposed to be doing.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's no confusion. Yeah, there's nothing, you know, there's no confusion of, you know, where you're supposed to be, how you're supposed to break the birds, whatever.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause everybody's done it. Yep.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no confusion also on what rotation you're on. Everybody's on the same one.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yep, everybody's in the same one.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You remember a couple years back, you and I and whoever else were shooting that Cherokee Rose and it was some tournament.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it was. And you were shooting a Beretta something another six 94 maybe.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, six 94.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I don't know your past maybe and then you start shooting the Craig off and you start just tearing it up.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that when you switch from that Beretta to that Craig off, something happened?

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think I think being put with the best equipment, right?

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a no not to any equipment. I think more or less, you know, anybody can shoot anything.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But for me, a Craig off is a game changer because of the way it moves, right?

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the way it's mechanically built, because the way it's looked, it works for my sight picture.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Other guns work for other people. For me, the Craig off has worked very, very well.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I just like the whole entire thing about Craig off, right?

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The company, the gun, the people, everything really fits into what I'm about and what I want to be.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, what would I be with, right?

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think 100 percent when you feel confident in your equipment, right?

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're doing, then there's no reason why you can't win or no reason why you can't shoot good or accomplish what you want to do.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You shoot in a parkour?

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Parkour X.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. Yeah.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you, so that's a little wider rib and maybe a little more weight on the front?

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. So yeah, the parkour X is the newer model per se.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like the parkour, you know, they're solder barrels together.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not the split barrels. They come choke with the KTW chokes.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the barrel is a little bit heavier than the regular parkour.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The ribs are a little bit wider than the regular parkour.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know, everything, everybody has their own type of thing they like, right?

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But the parkour for me, the regular parkour is a little bit too whippy and the ribs too thin.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for somebody else, you know, Braxton Oliver shoots the parkour.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That works for him, right? It's also a fixed barrel that works for him.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The parkour X works for me.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it because you're, you maybe started shooting the Berettas or the 694 with a little wider rib and it kind of...

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I think for visualization, the visual side of it, you know, probably the Berettas tend to have a little bit wider rib.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of where I came from.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So that parkour X kind of has a little bit wider rib that, you know,

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe resembles or matches the Berettas more than that regular parkour.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah. So you're on, you're on the Kregoff team, right?

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I am. Yes.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're shooting for Remington.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Who else you got now?

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I got Kregoff, you know, shoot Kregoff, barrel, excuse me, gun.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: All part of the Kregoff Pro Staff team.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Shoot with Remington.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Bear Pelt.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Shoot, you know, Bear Pelt Vest, PMS Firearms with my PILAs, you know, all in gunsmithing.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: They're very good to me. Austin Wimberley, you know, PMS Firearms, Granny and Mike Sherman.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They're very, very good to me as well.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Rocky Creek, you know, Rocky Creek. I shoot there a lot and they help me out.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Mike and all of them over there and David Chestnut.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I got a lot of people on my side that, you know, there's probably some I'm forgetting right where I'm leaving out.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there's off the top of my head. But ESP, ESP, you know, everybody there's like, like I just said earlier a second ago, Justin,

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, you know, when you're surrounded by the best products and the best people, you have, you know, no reason not to succeed,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: no reason not to believe in yourself. And I feel like that's a big thing. That's a part of my game is I feel like I'm, you know,

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I know that I'm a part of some of the best products in the industry that, you know, have put me or have given me the ability to succeed.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. I agree with that. You surround yourself with successful people and more than likely you'll be successful yourself, you know?

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So you started the year out in 24 down at the Caribbean Classic. I'm assuming. Yep. All right. M one go to Jack links.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: M one Seminole Cup, M one Gator Cup top 10 World Sporting third, which we'll talk about that in a second.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, South Carolina state HOA, uh, Western regional M four North central M three South central runner up.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, uh, you know, other than winning Turner, I mean, I don't, that's, that's pretty impressive, man.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So I appreciate that. Just, and I do. You remember, I know your dad remembers this.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You remember when I sat on the podcast a while back, he's coming. Just wait. Yeah. Well, here you are.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. There we go. Nobody can say I didn't say it. Yeah. So, so world sporting, man, that's pretty, that's pretty big.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, third place at the world championship for sporting clays. That's crazy. I mean, how does that feel to stand on the podium with, with those guys?

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Great. You know, so I feel like, you know, world championship in any sport, any event or whatever is kind of the pinnacle, right?

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's where you want to be. You want to win the world championship, you want a podium at a world event.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So going into that tournament and the funny thing about that is Justin going into that tournament a couple of weeks prior to the tournament, I was really kind of down in the dumps about my shooting.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Really? I was, I was shooting okay, but not where I wanted to be. I felt like I was very, very inconsistent, not really making the great move.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, could go run some stations, but then I go, you know, maybe miss two on a station or, you know, kind of throughout the turn, throughout the course missing, missing, you know, here and there.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Not missing a whole lot, but just missing and not really, you know, sure why.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I got with, you know, my coach, Mike Luongo, I've been with him for five years now.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have full confidence in Mike. He's not only my coach, he's one of my best friends as well.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I got with him a couple weeks before the World Sporting.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I said, let's figure this out. So we went out and figured it out and I felt a lot better about my shooting.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I was still kind of on the ropes. I told mom, headed into the shoot. I was like, I'm shooting okay, but kind of off and on.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: One day I'll go and I'll shoot fantastic, right? Next day I would kind of go and be like, ah, that wasn't really my best day.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So I knew that kind of going into the World Sporting and I told my mom that and she's like, all right, we'll just kind of, you know, take it day by day and do the best you can.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all you can do, right? So and I got to the shoot, got there, you know, prelim shot, prelim shot at very average.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of, you know, went to the next day, the main event and first day shot well.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of, you know, I feel like once you kind of shoot well at a tournament or get around down your, you know, once you get around and on your belt,

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it kind of, I guess it takes the pressure off everything to a certain extent.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. So I feel like, you know, shooting that first round well or shooting some of the events there.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, kind of really helped me excel me throughout the tournament that had to have given you some sort of,

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, I don't know how to like boost your confidence had to to 100% 100%.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. To help you do as well as you did in the rest of the shoots and even going up into the World Sporting.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, finishing like you finished had to boost your performance at World Sporting.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, you can do it, you know, all those shoots I just named out. They're not easy shoots.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So right. I mean, they're all technical hard, normally hard targets and, and, and you placed well.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I think the next step for you is probably getting on up there a few more spots and winning most of these things, man.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would love to win one. That's kind of the goal for everybody. Right.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, my biggest thing is I want to I told my you know, my mom and my parents before the season started that my goal this year was there was kind of a few things that I worked on or put an emphasis on going into the season.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. So one thing was kind of, you know, working on reading the target, you know, just finding out what the bird's doing at the break point, the angle speed, whatever all that.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But the big thing was really kind of getting past my my misses. Right. And being more consistent, I want just I didn't care as much as maybe winning everything.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. I want you want to be consistent all year long. I want to be up towards the top.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to, you know, put up a good, respectable number in every event I could.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, you know, the more chances that you can put yourself in the in the spot of shooting a good score and being consistent, the better chance you have of winning stuff.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, say you go out there and you're shooting ninety four ninety five.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you're kind of sitting around that ninety three ninety four ninety five most of the time.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. May not win, but you're going to get an event where you kind of pop off and you shoot ninety seven ninety eight.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever if you're kind of staying around the average, you know, the average in good shooting, you can you're going to shoot good one event or you're going to shoot good one tournament and you're going to pop off or maybe a first place or right your way or whatever.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Are you shooting feed task as well as you're shooting sporting?

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So I really don't even shoot feed task. I'm not really big into feed. Yeah, I'm not.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really big into feed task. I haven't really shot it. I shot it back when I was a sub junior.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But for the past couple of years, I haven't shot feed task largely for the reason.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I just really don't like shooting it that much. You don't hear the game.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The game is okay. Like I like the game. It's fun being out there and going to the parkour and shooting singles doing some of that.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I don't know about it. I don't know what about it, but I just don't really like the test.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was going to say, what don't you like? I don't like that. It takes a long to do.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It really does. It takes a long time. And for me, every time I'm shooting it, it takes a lot out of me, not just because, you know, look at the targets, but also that, that moving the gun up all the time.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true. You know that, that mount, I feel like every time I shoot it, which cause probably I don't shoot it right.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not really seasoned for the feed task round or whatever, but just take so much out of me every time I shoot it.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So what do you like shooting sporting like super sporting five stand? What do you like?

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Big on just really any event that's sporting or just really, really any event with a shotgun and being completely honest.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I really do. I just, you know, I like, there's not really anything I like more than anything else.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course we would like shooting well in the main or we like the main event. That's where the, that's where everything's at.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where the, where the matters. Yeah. But what matters most?

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, every event, I just like shooting it all.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You brought up Mike Luongo a few minutes ago and I know he's a big fan of yours. Tell me what does he do to help you?

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you say, you have to go shoot with Mike every once in a while. What does he do to help you improve?

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So like I said, he's my coach. I've been with them for five years or so now.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it just, it depends on when we go out there and shoot. Right?

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So I like to tell everybody what's something that's kind of you can, you can do to improve your game or to make your game more consistent.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to a coach for one thing, but go consistently go to that coach.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Cause so say you're popping around and I get it.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where people want to go different, different people and getting different sides of the story or whatever this coach does and this does.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I hundred percent I'm cool with that, but I feel like going having a coach that is your main coach and going to consistently can up your game because of the simple fact that they can, they get used to your shooting.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They know what, what, what your move is supposed to look like. I know what you're supposed to do on that target.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So they can see the subtle little small things that maybe somebody else wouldn't see or, you know, whoever somebody you might shoot with or whatever.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Um, they wouldn't see it's like for example, Mike, like I said, I've been shooting in with him for a while.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: If I go out there and I'm shooting this target, I might shoot a certain way and I might be, oh, you know, kind of missing it, hitting it, whatever, just being a little inconsistent on it and might be like, that's not the way you shoot that target.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not what you do. Or something like, you know, every year kind of my mount, my mount in my pocket gets low every year.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of something that happens every year about three or four times a year. I like to really get into my gun and creep down into my gun and that that mount starts to get lower and lower and lower.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So every year he, that's the type of stuff that he can take out. Right.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Within the first 15 minutes or so, boom, he turned your mounts a little bit too low. Let's get that back up into the pocket.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That the subtle things like that, whereas you know, you go to somewhere, you go to somewhere else or you get somebody else or they may not know that's what's wrong because they haven't seen you do it that many times.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know that that's happened to me several times is you, you know, you mount your gun different. I wonder why that is. Has Mike ever went over that with you? Why that happens?

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean for me, I feel like it's more of just kind of a natural thing. So I started with shooting a Beretta 686.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was super duper long for me. Like I had an extension on it, all this good stuff. Like I'm mad at the gun on my nipple basically.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but that's kind of what I was comfortable with back in the day. So I was, I was really wanting to creep in on the stock and mount real low and get into the gun where now I have a stock that fits me and it's perfect, you know, made for me.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's made for me up in the up in the pocket a little bit more to be it have a more consistent mount and more consistent sight picture.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, like I said every year as you shoot more and more and more, I started to revert back to my old ways. And it happens every year three or four times a year. You can ask Mike about it. It happens every year. Three or four times.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, he could pick it out in 15 minutes or so. Boom, back to shooting, back to shooting like my normal self.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So what happens when you're when you start to mount a little low? You start shooting over stuff.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I start shooting shoot over stuff. I'm like, you know, I'm shooting at a target sight picture looks perfect to me and still not breaking it. And I'm like, Mike, what's going on here? I don't I don't I don't I feel like a bird should be breaking.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, Hey, your mounts too low that guns kicked up way up. So I'm shooting over top of stuff. Yeah.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Makes a difference. It's funny because the same way with me when I mean, I don't shoot like you do, but you know, when you go out there and you're like something that right. I mean, something's not right. I got to figure out what this is. And you know, you change that mountain where it's supposed to be.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's amazing at what will happen. You know, it is. It's crazy. It's a game changer. It really is. Yeah. So you got so you got what's your next shoot coming up?

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Next shoot coming up would be so you had nationals was one of them. I have one other shoot before that. I might go to the North Carolina State up at Hunter's Point Braxton Oliver's place and Mike Oliver's place.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. So I'll go there. Um, and that's real that kind of the two last things for the season for me.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's crazy to go through this stuff and see, see what you've done. It's it blows my mind. I mean, you know, going through this stuff today and I'm looking, I'm thinking, I know that you shoot well, but I just didn't know that you shot that well.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So I mean, like, like we said, next thing is winning some stuff. Yeah. H. O. A. Is coming. I'm telling you.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the goal. That's the goal. Yeah, I feel like I've had a great season. I've done what I've wanted to do for the most part is be consistent throughout the course of the of the year and placing up towards the top.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to do. Just keeping your name up there and the first list or whatever it is. I that's kind of been my big goal. Yeah. Um, is there any shoot that I feel like I should could have shot better at?

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a couple, but I feel like on the, on the flip side of things, me shooting bad there might have, you know, might have shown me some what I was doing or expose something that I was doing wrong.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That if I kind of went there and I shot average, right? I would have maybe not picked out or had the emphasis to look at. I went in there, you know, say I go to a tournament. I didn't really shoot the way I want to. I shot it kind of, you know, kind of poor. Yeah.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that that in that in your mind now you're thinking, all right, what have I done different? What do I need to do to get back to the way I was shooting? And I feel like the tournaments that you kind of go to and shoot poor at or not really the way that you wanted to put that kind of thought in your mind.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can go find out what's wrong. Say that Mount may be a little bit off or the, the I'm kind of swimming with my arms too much, not using my lower body or looking off a target, whatever it is. Those tournaments have exposed whatever I was doing wrong.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Have allowed me to correct myself for the next one. Then I can go to the next one and shoot well.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. That's a good answer. All right. Uh, college kids, high school kids that maybe want to be shooting as well as you are. Okay. And there's a lot of kids out there shooting right now. What kind of advice?

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have for them, uh, to be able to get to that next level?

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The vice I would give to younger shooters would just honestly be, be patient.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If we're being completely honest, I think be patient is the biggest thing that I've had to understand. And I think a lot of people need to as well, you know, the younger shooters say you're not.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's the thing about it is, you know, you might only be shooting. You've been shooting for under 10 years. You're not supposed to be winning tournaments.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not supposed to be going out and, and, you know, winning a whole lot of stuff overall in your, in your division, you're kind of, you know, you're doing what you're doing.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But overall and competing up against the big dogs, you're not supposed to yet because those guys have 20 plus years, 30 years of experience of doing this.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say be patient, keep shooting. And it's kind of like it happens overnight. If we're being completely honest, I feel like it's, it's just all of a sudden everything starts to click where that's, you know, whether it being, you know, you're, you finally understand how to look at the bird or you finally understand how to move with the target or you finally understand how to shoot these specific type of methods or ways.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to click at some point.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It may not happen tomorrow.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I may not happen, you know, the next day a week from now it may happen a couple of years from now, but at some point it will click.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You just gotta be patient.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You stay with it.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Keep, keep plugging.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Now what, uh, what you're shooting Remington shells.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_03]: What, what shells are you shooting?

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So I shoot the Remington nitro 27th.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I shoot mostly, um, eight shots at 1235 ounce and eight, eight shot.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I shoot both eights and seven of haves as well.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You majority eight, seven halves.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put in for like a raboo or like a tar that's got not a lot of spin to it, or it's kind of got some distance or whatever.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Majority eights.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So nationals is coming up super squad will be supposed to be stream live again this year.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think, uh, it's going to be coverage there.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I'll be there and yeah, I'll be gotten her cutting jokes.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: See you.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be joking about me too much.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, but yeah, man, I mean, I've, I'm super proud of you.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I've, I've, like I said, I've, you know, we talked about it a couple of years ago that you're coming and you're here and, um, you know, I think it's cool that you're doing as well as you are.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I wish nothing but the best for you in the future, for sure.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I appreciate that Justin.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate you invite me on and come talk to everybody.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's a good experience to kind of reach out to people and just kind of see the different, different sides of shooting in different people.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I got a feeling we're probably going to be doing another one of these effort nationals if you keep on like you going.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the fact.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That'd be, that'd be nice.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll get Mike Luang go on with us on the next time.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Lord.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So Mayor Mike is what we call him.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Mayor Mike.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say, what's his nickname?

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got to have a nickname.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it?

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's got tons of nicknames, man.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We call him mayor Mike, you know, Mikey, Mike.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We got ATA Mike loves them trap targets.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: ATA Mike is a good one too.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, oh man.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You got to ask Rick Hemingway about those.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows about them.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Does he still wear the Crocs from star Wars all over?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The crop.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole year, the star Wars Crocs.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: No, about the star Wars Crocs wears them things to travel.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw him somewhere and he had, you know, the little croc decorations

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: stuck all over his shoes.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like, man, star Wars, man.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, there you go.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_03]: My eight year old wore those.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Turner.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll let you go.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you've got things to do, man.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you coming on and I'll see you at nationals.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Alrighty.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll see you there and I appreciate you everything that you've

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_00]: done.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.